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@SkyeNet just for funsies we've been trying the parallel conversation thing and its been working decently well- host talking to his parents while I type
I'm not convinced it's something a singlet can't probably manage but hey
I'm wondering if you could use that in a higher form to listen to one thing via an earjack while the tulpa listens to something else, and then to be able to make a summary of what each of you heard
Compartmentalization and parallel processing are two very different things. As Maya said tulpa or not you only have one brain hardware wise. You could train your brain to handle multiple processes at the cost of something else but it's still one brain.
@Mystes I am open to new ideas... With evidence behind them. Popularity of an idea along with anecdotes may mean it needs further study, but it does not mean that it is correct.
What's normally followed doesn't always mean it's right. I don't think scientific stuff is always necessarily needed, but tulpas have a huge difference between imaginary friends.
In addition, there is motivation for people to pretend when they receive encouragement as a result, especially if they are behaving in a manner highly consistent with a roleplay character.
7:31 PM
I assume you've publicly roleplayed before, @Mystes?
but get this, what if it didn't matter. What if treating those RP characters like they were tulpas actually sped up their transition into actual tulpas
When people treat their tulpas like roleplay characters (consistent parroting/puppeting - not just using it as an example), or "instantly get responses", there is a problem in each of these cases.
7:37 PM
In the first case, it is establishing roleplay as the pattern of behavior - not trying to establish independence and autonomy.
7:38 PM
In the second case, it is a lack of understanding of how the brain changes behavior - even assuming tulpas are "simply" altered automatic behavior rather than an independent and full mind, this takes time.
7:39 PM
A few days are far from long enough to establish that, and it discredits the phenomena to essentially anyone who does know about brain functioning when they see it claimed as true.
7:40 PM
I brought up the study about habits before - is anyone really saying that a tulpa is a simpler autonomous behavior than a single habit, or that a full independent mind is anywhere near that simple?
hm, while I agree with the first point, and would add that the host would always be on the lookout to wean off the parroting/etc.
7:42 PM
I don't see a problem with the second. you don't need a full personality to hear responses. There's hypnagogia for one. If you make a ball of light and call it a tulpa, who's to say you can't hear a voice and call that a tulpa
I think constant roleplay can create a tulpa but the problem will be determining when the tulpa is actually speaking, and when you're just messing around(edited)
@9 Mil + Ika There are studies about related phenomena - DID is most direct. Other related studies involve speed of adjustment of the own brain, the propensity of the brain to rationalize beliefs and wishful thinking in absence of or even in the face of proof to the contrary, etc.
I mean, you can break any number of tulpa reports into a collection of anedoctes. If you doubt the base material you'd have to doubt any result stemming from them
There are servers people can go to if they want to roleplay. At this point, this server is more geared towards intellectual discussion rather than roleplaying - and given that seems to be quite rare, I personally would like it to stay that way.
Even in the case of studies with more rigorous and defined data being used as a supplement, analyzing the relation and the quality of the data is important.
I think I was more pointing in the direction that when you collect enough anedoctes they make a trend, and they get less and less dismissable regardless of nature
